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Old Jul 31, 2006, 12:27 PM // 12:27   #1
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Default is this a good anti warrior build?

Attributes:

Illusion 16
healing 12
fast casting.. whatevers left

Skills:

ethereal burden
conjure phantasm
images of remorse
accumalated pain
distortion
ineptitude
clumsiness
healing breeze.



fairly basic tactics here i think. hit the warrior with burden to slow him down then do phantasm, images of remorse and accumalated pain just before the 2 hexes wear of for extra dmg and a deep wound. i guess the warrior will have closed to melee with you now so throw on distortion ineptitude and clumsiness. use healing breeze if necessary.
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02   #2
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My opinion is that putting almost 100 attribute points for healing breeze is... unnecessary (let's stay polite ).

I also think that you have no energy management : big mistake !

So, to be concise, you need inspiration instead of healing.

Imo, you should replace healing breeze by Ether Feast, then, either pack Spirit of Failure with distortion (instead of Clumsiness), or replace Distortion+Clumsiness with Drain Enchantment plus a hard interrupt (Complicate, for instance).

In fact, you dont need Distortion with Ineptitude. Your target is probably blinded while your Ineptitude is recharging. If you fear to be attacked by many W or minions (your build looks like an Aspenwood or Alliance build, since it includes no Rez) then take Epidemic.
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 04:05 PM // 16:05   #3
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The best Anti-warrior build I think would be:

SS (e)
Empathy
Reckless Haste
Cry of Frustration
Soothing Images
Spirit of Failure
Price of Failure
Vampiric Touch/Bite

Cry is used to interupt Healing Signet
Vampiric Bite/Touch is to self heal
Soothing is to stop warriors to gain adrenaline
Everything else is there to give you energy, defense, and hurt the warrior with each swing of their weapon.
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24   #4
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Originally Posted by Pick Me
The best Anti-warrior build I think would be:

SS (e)
Empathy
Reckless Haste
Cry of Frustration
Soothing Images
Spirit of Failure
Price of Failure
Vampiric Touch/Bite

Cry is used to interupt Healing Signet
Vampiric Bite/Touch is to self heal
Soothing is to stop warriors to gain adrenaline
Everything else is there to give you energy, defense, and hurt the warrior with each swing of their weapon.

SS (e) 15e
Empathy 10e
Reckless Haste 10e
Cry of Frustration 15e
Soothing Images 15e
Spirit of Failure 10e
Price of Failure 10e
Vampiric Touch/Bite 15e

you're spread across curses, domination, illusion, inspiration and blood. all together 100 energy used in this hog. 'best' may be a little strong.
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 05:09 PM // 17:09   #5
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Originally Posted by holden
'best' may be a little strong.
Politeness is spreading... I can only approve !

Back to subject, a typical anti-W/Asn/R build is the one proposed by Robin_Anadri here. Imo, it's one of the best, it has alll ingredients needed (energy management/self-healing/damage and more) except for some interrupt. You can look in her thread and notice also several valid variations, you'll need to find your way through the -inevitable?- flaming, though.

But i suppose that Lord Copper wasn't really looking for a build, rather for a feedback on his own build.
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 06:22 PM // 18:22   #6
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"Best" is correct, in a world of unlimted energy and attributes.

But yes, you are absolutely correct, spread too thin and too much energy.

As to provide feedback to Lord Cooper's build:

I would not bother with healing breeze. I think Averre was the one who said that Ether Feast is better than Healing Breeze. Chance your attributes from Healing to Inspiration. With Distortion, get Spirit of Failure. This will help you gain more energy than you lose. Personally, I wouldn't get Accumulate Pain, I would get Phantom Pain instead (health degen and then deep wounds - good cover hex). Then you can get leech Signet, so you can interupt healing signet and gain more energy.

In summary:
Healing Breeze traded in for Ether Feast
Accumulated Pain traded for Phantom Pain
Conjure Phantasm traded for Leech Signet
Ethereal Burden traded for Spirit of Failure


I understand your use of CP+IoR+AP+EB = slow warrior that suffers from deep wounds and health degen of 9. But I think you'll be waiting a while before you gain you energy back (even if you use EB as a cover hex).

Distortion to me keeps reducing your energy too much unless you get something that increases your energy by at least the same amount in the same amount of time. That is why I like Spirit of Failure with it.

Otherwise, nice build.
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 11:54 PM // 23:54   #7
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Q: Is this a good anti warrior build?

A: Yea it is. You might want to consider some more nrg management and alternative heals.
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